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. >> even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. >> i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you all. >> we've been listening to the house speaker comment. there he is leaving the room. comment on the fiscal cliff. headline -- john boehner calling the white house's most recent offer not a serious proposal reiterating the fact that is he willing to put revenues on the table but not through a raise in the tax rates, by closing loopholes. he wants lower tax rates. reiterating the republican position there. harold ford jr., the former democratic congressman, also doug holtz-eakin is the former congressional budget office director. keith banks is here with us as well. harold, your reaction to what the house speaker says here? certainly doesn't seem, if you listen to either the president or the speaker, that we're any closer to a deal. >> i was encouraged by the speaker's remarks. he didn't put his foot down and say no adamantly or irretrievably to anything. whet
. >> even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. >> i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you all. >> we've been listening to the house speaker comment. there he is leaving the room. comment on the fiscal cliff. headline -- john boehner calling the white house's most recent offer not a serious proposal reiterating the fact that is he willing to...
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i would grab -- i would grab -- i would note that i think paul ryan may be the only person in america who became a romneyest. apparently as pegeny noonan said, romney left no footprints in the sand. >> oh. >> coming up, the ten letter word that can grind washington to a halt, but can capitol hill clean up the dirty mess that is the filibuster. we will ask our very own chris hayes when he joins the panel just ahead. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. gives you a low $18.50 monthly plan premium... and select generic hypertension drugs available for only a penny... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. so you can focus on what really matters. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms
i would grab -- i would grab -- i would note that i think paul ryan may be the only person in america who became a romneyest. apparently as pegeny noonan said, romney left no footprints in the sand. >> oh. >> coming up, the ten letter word that can grind washington to a halt, but can capitol hill clean up the dirty mess that is the filibuster. we will ask our very own chris hayes when he joins the panel just ahead. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose...
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. >> even though -- even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that will be faced requires us to make serious decisions, and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you all. >> house speaker john boehner essentially painting a rather pessimistic picture about negotiations going on at the white house, and with the president over avoiding the fiscal cliff saying the highlights here that there is a stalemate, saying that this was not political posturing. also saying that the white house offer was not a serious proposal, which is not considered a serious proposal, and, finally, that he says we are almost nowhere when it comes to the talks on the fiscal cliff. we can have more details on just where they are. you've got 32 days or so before the possibility of these tax increases, as well as spending cuts to go into effect, and it is high stakes diplomacy, political posturing, as well as serious economic questions in terms of how this is going to impact all of us in the com
. >> even though -- even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that will be faced requires us to make serious decisions, and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you all. >> house speaker john boehner essentially painting a rather pessimistic picture about negotiations going on at the white house, and with the president over avoiding the fiscal cliff...
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paul ryan passed two years of budgets to deal with -- >> not fiscal cliff. >> republicans have plenty of plans on the table in terms of tax reform and entitlement reform and spending reform all of which we need to do. this conversation assumes the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal cliff. i disagree. i think he does. i think he wants all the tax rates to go up. you can argue the politics of this. he needs revenue to come in. he wants more spending, not less. wants 1.2 trillion dollars in defense cuts because he wants to cut the military and wants an unlimited credit card in terms being allowed unilaterally to raise the debt limit. he wants all of these things and he knows he will not get blamed for it. the republicans will get blamed for it no matter what happens. the gop will get blamed for it because the mia is protective the president. he has nothing to lose, jon. he is willing to go over the cliff. >> i think what he is say take us over the cliff and vote with the democrats and dare republicans not vote it for 90% of the americans wouldn't be affected by top two tax rate
paul ryan passed two years of budgets to deal with -- >> not fiscal cliff. >> republicans have plenty of plans on the table in terms of tax reform and entitlement reform and spending reform all of which we need to do. this conversation assumes the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal cliff. i disagree. i think he does. i think he wants all the tax rates to go up. you can argue the politics of this. he needs revenue to come in. he wants more spending, not less. wants 1.2...
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if the american people wanted paul ryan's plan, they would have voted for paul ryan. they didn't. they voted for compromise. and that's not happening. wouldn't the most direct way, the best way would be a counteroffer of some sort? with specifics? >> well, you know, don, i think they have done that. i'm not in the room, so i can't say, you know what they're saying when they close the doors. by the way, you know, what i would love, don, you and i can both promote this idea. all of these negotiations should be in front of the cspan cameras and the cnn cameras, these should not be closed door negotiations. the american people should see what both sides are -- >> then it turns into a theater, though, stephen. >> no, no. look, but what happens now is everybody is -- somebody said this and nobody knows who is being really truthful about what's being offered. i think -- i shoot for transparency. i think this should all be in the sunlight and you would have monster ratings. people would tune in. >> i'm for tran paresparency bu grandstanding. >> i think this is probably going to linger on
if the american people wanted paul ryan's plan, they would have voted for paul ryan. they didn't. they voted for compromise. and that's not happening. wouldn't the most direct way, the best way would be a counteroffer of some sort? with specifics? >> well, you know, don, i think they have done that. i'm not in the room, so i can't say, you know what they're saying when they close the doors. by the way, you know, what i would love, don, you and i can both promote this idea. all of these...
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. >> you also have a lot of people talking about whether people like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell are looking at how they approach this in terms of the next presidential race. we'll talk about that on another day. karen and john, thanks to both of you. >> thanks. >>> also making news this morning, in just about half an hour, the supreme court is expected to announce whether it will take up two same-sex marriage cases. the justices are behind closed doors right now discussing the challenges to the defense of marriage act which several federal courts have found unconstitutional. they're also expected to talk about prop 8 which is cal kl's ban on same-sex marriage. >>> that woman who was attacked and disfigured by a chimp in connecticut is settling with the animal owner's estate. remember charla nash? she's going to get about $4 million. her lawsuit originally asked for $50 million. the chimp's owner died in 2010. nash had to undergo a face transplant because of that attack. >>> we're learning who holds the two winning tickets for the powerball jackpot. in missouri, officials say cindy a
. >> you also have a lot of people talking about whether people like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell are looking at how they approach this in terms of the next presidential race. we'll talk about that on another day. karen and john, thanks to both of you. >> thanks. >>> also making news this morning, in just about half an hour, the supreme court is expected to announce whether it will take up two same-sex marriage cases. the justices are behind closed doors right now...
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so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put out a report two weeks ago, just after the election, about how to get $385 billion saved. i think that has helped explain where the cuts would come from. >> is it all on the providers side or is some of it on the beneficiary side? >> some of it's on the beneficiary side because we do want to have wealthier medicare recipients pay more for their part "b" benefits. but i think separate from that, we also need to think about changing the system. and i would say each player needs to change. first, on the doctor side, we definitely -- or the hospital side. we definitely nee
so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put...
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. >> even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you. >> those remarks from house speaker john boehner. and more about the fiscal cliff negotiations with house majority leader eric kantor. >> what was your reaction? >> you know, i think we have said that offer is not a serious offer. all of a sudden they're asking for $1.6 trillion in tax hikes and nowhere near that number in spending reforms. and what we've always said is we want to fix the problem. we want to make sure that we get a hand on these unfunded obligations connected with the into itment programs. we want to start the spending problem so we can then go about trying to manage down the debt and deaf sifment and we don't want to aggravate a struggling economy. we want to get people back to work, which is why again, we take the position that raising tax rates is absolutely not something that helps get people
. >> even the paul ryan plan on medicare doesn't really take effect for years down the road. do you want something more immediate? >> i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions and it requires us to make those decisions now. thank you. >> those remarks from house speaker john boehner. and more about the fiscal cliff negotiations with house majority leader eric kantor. >> what was your reaction? >> you know, i think we have said that...
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ryan. call it about the path to prosperity because for the first time in my lifetime, this congress got serious about making the tough choices necessary to get us out of these record-setting deficits. and that's so important because i get so tired, mr. speaker, as i know you do, too, pointing the finger. it's his fault, it's their fault, this budget is not about blame. this budget is about solutions. that distinguishes us, particularly in this fiscal cliff debate, from the white house and from the senate which continue to talk in broad platitudes but have failed to lay out the difficult, difficult line by line explanation of what their proposal would be to solve these problems. we did that in our budget, mr. speaker, and it was hard. there's a reason the united states senate has not passed a budget, mr. speaker, in almost four years, and it's because it's hard. budget is a statement of your values. it's a statement of your values. we confiscate all of this money in tax revenue from the amer
ryan. call it about the path to prosperity because for the first time in my lifetime, this congress got serious about making the tough choices necessary to get us out of these record-setting deficits. and that's so important because i get so tired, mr. speaker, as i know you do, too, pointing the finger. it's his fault, it's their fault, this budget is not about blame. this budget is about solutions. that distinguishes us, particularly in this fiscal cliff debate, from the white house and from...